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Post by Lol 6 on Feb 6, 2021 9:45:44 GMT -6
Why is FreeDoom unfinished? I mean, I think it's good like the way it is.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Feb 8, 2021 18:23:58 GMT -6
i didnt even know they were still working on it... i personally think that it looks fine myself...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 22:34:42 GMT -6
Dissenting opinion: It was good in the past, until developers got scared from their letter exchange with Doom developers that if their monsters resemble original ones, their work may be seen as derivative from actual Doom and thus subject to copyright/whatever. Basically, Doom developers didn't want anyone to come up with resources that enable to play custom wads with a totally free independent IWAD. It's quite probable the only thing they could have violated is patent law and for that Doom had to hold a patent on something, but a lot of good art was scrapped. Then there was a scandal with some resources actually being derivative of non-libre copyrighted work by other people, this were a bitch to pull out because of the way versioning system works (hard to remove copyright-violating assets from history even if you delete them from current revision).
So a lot of resources ended up being redone, the current episode texts read... well, I don't know how to say it, but they are a lot more stupid than the original game. The levels were turned down to vanilla limits, instead of using Gzdoom cool stuff.
As someone on a Russian doom-dedicated forum has expressed: "Freedoom is now resembling a corpse that prays to be forgotten". Frankly, I agree. This is also why Wereknight pulled all his stuff from there, he felt his work can be reused in something more worthy than this shell of a game.
I wish could put this nicer, but this is how I feel, and some other people feel too. We can agree to disagree on this. Also, I do acknowledge that Aquatex textures are nice and fit Freedoom. Select music tracks are good too.
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Post by Lol 6 on Jan 21, 2022 12:33:45 GMT -6
The levels were turned down to vanilla limits, instead of using Gzdoom cool stuff. Oh man, I don't like when people do this comments, to achieve maximum compatibility with all ports (And ID's Exe), the levels would have to be vanilla compatible, otherwise people that can't (Or simply don't wanna) use GZDoom because of Hardware requirements or other things would not be able to play custom levels with FreeDoom as IWAD. Let's say I run a very old machine that doesn't have DirectX9 support or OpenGL 2.0 support. Then how am I supposed to enjoy the game if I can't run GZDoom? Plus using ACS, ZScript, MAPINFO lumps etc. can be a very long and sometimes complicated process. So yeah, they don't use GZDoom stuff to achieve maximum compatibility, and even then they're not close enough, as the IWAD still can crash on vanilla/chocolate doom
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 0:47:36 GMT -6
To clarify, I am not a hater of vanilla. I wanted to mention that some people believe the limitations that were introduced sometime after Freedoom had a good number of visually advanced levels, reduced the visual appeal of project so it now compares unfavourably to official Doom iwads. This is relevant to the subject of Freedoom being unfinished, because making changes that require to redo previously done work certainly extends the project's development time, not to say also possibly upsetting previous contributors and making them lose interest in further supporting the project.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Jan 25, 2022 17:26:57 GMT -6
Im just glad that i Experienced vanilla doom via dosbox several years ago, but now that i did that i am not going back, i dont like the limitations and i dont care what so called "Doom purists" think of me.
I honestly think that Freedoom doesnt need any more work, after several years of development i think they did more than enough work on it. (how long has it been now?)
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Post by taintedslav on Mar 12, 2022 4:32:29 GMT -6
Uncertainty in vision and overall lacking of ways to keep the interest of people working on a thing in check.
Freedoom have changed its insides a lot of times, it will never be done completely.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Mar 28, 2022 20:11:39 GMT -6
i think maybe its unfinished because theyre stressed or very busy in general , or maybe for some othjer reasons
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